Introduction

2007-04-30 21:59:57

Hi, I've been reading the messages for a few days and thought I'd introduce
myself.
I've had PVCs and PACs for some years now. They don't bother me all that
much EXCEPT that I also have AV nodal re-entry PSVT, and a run of PACs can
sometimes kick me into it (the fastest SVT rhythm I can remember was about
214 bpm). Therefore, I tend to avoid things which trigger arrythmias in me
(lack of sleep, too much caffeine, and active hiatal hernia. Also, lying on
my left side -- sometimes.).
I've not had an SVT episode in some time now (knock on wood). Most of the
time, I can abort an episode by performing the valsalva maneuver. However,
I've had to go the ER 3 times in the last 4 or 5 years, and have had to have
valium and adenosine to get my heart rate to return to normal. (Adenosine,
if you've ever had it, makes you feel like absolute hell for a few seconds!)
I had a consult a couple of years ago with a doc who performs RF ablation.
I've decided not to do it at this time, as my SVT is so infrequent -- I have
known people who have debilitating episodes every day, and I'm not nearly
that bad.
There is one arrythmia that I do get that is very disturbing, though --
sometimes I'll get a "run" of irregular heartbeats where every second or
third beat is a PVC or PAC -- maybe for as long as 30 second to a minute.
This is VERY disconcerting, especially when you're having a casual
conversation with someone at a party (as happened to me some months ago) and
you have to tell them, "I have to sit down; my heart is beating
irregularly." Then you have to explain to them what it is, why, etc., and
assure them you're not going to die on them. :-) I really do hate these
episodes, though -- they're uncomfortable and I'm always afraid they'll
result in SVT.
Dunno if you guys have seen it, but this website by Dr. Nicholas Tullo is
one of the very best I've found; it explains PVCs and other arrythmias very
well -- and best of all, explains WHY they feel like they do (hard, painful,
fluttery, etc) and what the heart is doing during these episodes. These
explanations pretty much took my fear away. :-) Hope you guys find them
helpful, too.
http://home.earthlink.net/~avdoc/infocntr/htrhythm/hrarrhy1.htm
Best regards,
Deborah Kosnett
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Coping

2007-04-30 16:52:11

Since Christmas, I have survived the death of a dear high school
friend, resigned from my corporate management position (after 9
years with the company), completed education and licensing for a
career as a Realtor, gotten married and burried my father...in that
order. The PVCs began at Christmastime, when my father's conditioned
reached the point of no return. I thought I too was going to die.
I've seen a couple of cardiologists who've assured me my condition is
benign, and I'm told I am not a candidate for a radiofrequency
cathedar abalation. However, there was one point, before my wedding,
that I would have withdrawn every penny of my savings to have it
done.
I was truly losing it! This site has helped me survive many a
sleepless night! Thank you all.
I am far from free of PVCs, but I am learning to cope better.
Sometimes, I don't even feel them! Prayer, visualization and a will
to enjoy life helps too. No meds, but two things I must credit are
"Rolling Rock" beer and my new husband. I am not kidding!
When the PVCs felt extraordinarily strong/ frequent I would go for a
glass of wine or beer to ease the edge (I know that sounds like an
unhealthy dependency) and noticed that the only product that would
have a positive impact was Rolling Rock! Now, I keep it in the
fridge
at all times and when they get bad, I take a sip or two and within
minutes no PVC feeling. Also, there is a spot in the upper center of
my back, between my shoulder blades, where my husband will place his
hand and gently press as I lie on my stomach to go to sleep. Within
seconds the flip flops cease and I am able to get my rest.
I hope you all don't think I'm crazy...I'm just attempting to give
back to all of you who have been there for me.

Suddenly feeling lots of them!

2007-04-30 11:56:37

Hi all
Isn't it terrible - I haven't had any for a couple of weeks and I'm just
sitting here at work minding my own business when all of a sudden I'm having
probably 10 per minute.
This really really annoys me as I just start to feel better and back they
come. I'm in the second half of my cycle (of course) so it looks like I'm
going to have a baaaad couple of weeks. Sometimes I feel very sorry for
myself and think it's just not fair. Why do they bother me so much - why
can't I just learn to live with them - why do I have to get them - why why
why!!!!
Sorry for all the complaining - it just seems unjust sometimes!!!
Susan
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Suzy

2007-04-30 09:25:01

Suzy, good guess. I was having visions of maybe bobsledding or something on that
line although I'm sure I'm way off target. Anyone else who doesn't know want to
take a stab at this before we find out what it really is? Hey, maybe we can
start a pool. Yeah, I know, whoever is closest to the real answer could win a a
a.............................. woops, late for a meeting. I hate when work
interupts me.
Talk to you soon, Dani

Rolling Rock Cure!

2007-04-29 18:46:05

Indeed, Rolling Rock is the pale elixir from Western PA! I live 15
miles from the Rolling Rock Brewery. I was having such a bad run of
PVC's last night that I briefly considered driving over to the
brewery
and immersing myself in a vat of beer to see if that would make
them go away..... just the thought of doing that must have worked,
because they're gone today! ;-)
-john
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To Christine

2007-04-29 17:39:24

Christine,
Yvonne is exactly right, you WILL be fine. You have 178 people right
here who will be sending their mental energy and their prayers your
way when you go in, so keep that in mind......-john

usually read, laugh and can relate to what we are all going thru. I
guess I'm one of the lucky ones here, since my PVC's are few and far
between. There is no method to their madness. But one thing, with
me, they never happen at night or when I really exert myself. I had
a heart specialist tell me that my heart was "not" skipping a beat,
but taking an extra beat! Well whatever you want to call it...it
bothers me! :) Anyway, Christine, I wanted to offer you a few words
of encouragement since I can feel by your e-mails just how scared you
are. First of all, even though it might be very difficult for
you...you need to think positive about the situation. When you have
fear, that emotion out weighs all the other good emotions and
attracts negative things to you. Just like every action has a
reaction. So, please don't be scared. Live for this moment that God
has given you...you can't do ANYTHING about the past!
yet. All we all have is NOW...live it..don't dread it...it's a
gift..that's why it's call the present. OK...guys...I need to check
all of the spelling...looking to see if I used the words hard and one
together...nope...didn't make the "Don" mistake! LOL Take care
everyone! Yvonne ^i^ <-angel for Christine

Susan/PVC's sneaking up on us

2007-04-29 09:40:01

I know just how you feel. I can go weeks without having even one PVC and then
boom I get them in runs one whole day, or for the week. Take a look at what
you've eaten or drank recently. If I drink one caffieneated, carbonated
beverage, I get them. Tea is excessively high in caffeine, unless it is herbal.
Another thing I wanted to mention to everyone is be aware of any fat burning
products with Mau Huang or ephedra in it. This is a stimulant and has been
connected with several peoples heart arrythmias.
Andrea

Gymkana

2007-04-29 01:44:52

Well this isn't on the topic of PVC etc. etc. ==
but I have been laughing reading the "Gymkana" conversations...
I remember reading a post where someone had horses and was attending a
Gymkana.
Seems like a couple people on here lately mentioned owning horses.
I have always ridden. At the moment only one horse (I trail ride) ==
Sudden jolts (from a spook) have been known to set off "hard" heart
palpitations ==
I am in Virginia? Where are you other horse people?
Are you doing Western Gymkanas or fun and games on horseback Eastern style?
On the PVC topic:
I discovered taking SAM-e stopped (almost) my heart palpitations and now
guess what?
I am breaking out in hives from the stuff. :-(
At least I think it is that: I don't think it is the CO-Q10.
Guess I need to do the elimination process.
Nancy in Virginia

Back to the ER

2007-04-28 20:48:44

WEll last night I was back in th ER. Went to bed about eleven thirty
waiting for my sixteen year old to get off work.I had just come from
a talent show at our church that I was in charge of. I felt ok untill
about one thirty when I could feel my heart racing a little.{120 bpm}
My hands were clamy and I was anxious.A few P.V.Cs I was pretty sure
I was having a panic attack.I went to the ER and saw a very nice
doctor.I am also on the Board of Directors there. My blood preasure
was 137 over 95. The ekg said normal sinus tachacardia.Of course no
p.v.cs untill I got back home. We talked about p.v.cs and she said
she gets them too. Every one gets them. Some people are more
sensetive to them than others.In them selves they are not
harmfull.Just annoying. Most people start getting them in there
thirties and just ride them out. Of course no caffiene or ather
stimulints. She gave me lorazepam to take when I got home.I slept
untill eleven thirty. Which came first the panic attacks or the
p.v.cs? She said I should ask my primary care doctor for something to
take to calm me down when I have these attacks. She also said that if
my stress test and echo tests were ok {which they always are} do not
worry.You will not die, you just feel like you are.Very funny.Go
Bless all of you.You are in my prayers.
What do you call a paster in Germany?
A german shepherd.
Tony

hello everybody! new to the group!

2007-04-28 15:58:08

Just wanted to introduce myself and say "Hi!" to everyone. (I'm new
to the group)
I have been suffering with pvc's for almost a year now. (had one full
day in all that year time without a pvc) I do have mitral valve
prolapse, so I am sure that is what is contributing to my pvc's. I
have been at my wits end with these things. I have tried everything I
have come across to try to get rid of these things. (yep, even tried
the vinegar cocktail for a couple days.) Nothing is making these
things go away!!!!! My cardio just tells me to go on with my life and
forget about them. That is what I am trying to do. (let me
emphasize "trying") Well, here I am. I am glad there is a group like
this where we can come to vent our frustrations with having to deal
with this. I look forward to hearing from everyone. Any advice or
support you can offer would be wonderful.
Talk to ya soon!!!
Shellie :)

Gymkhana/Panic Attack.....

2007-04-28 11:06:52

<<<<<<<<<<::::::::::::::::::::::::::
And in the Hacking division I came first in my class (YAY) so now I have a
nice blue ribbon to add to my
collection.<<<<<<<<<<::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Isn't that the most wonderful feeling....
Actually horses make me feel good in general.....soothing.... :-)
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day though ended rather badly.... I had just finished helping the kids with
the mounted games, and joining in myself
out.<<<<<<<<<<::::::::::::::::::::::::::
I don't try to compete anymore == It stresses me....
And I have had panic attacks (not at horse shows) === but I think the stress
of it all does contribute.
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again...........<<<<<<<<<<::::::::::::::::::::::::::
I don't know how much the Cold/flu contributed. I am guess the
excitement/pressure/even the extreme "high" of the moment....
Sometimes I can't even get that "happy/up" == or it sets off the
palpitations....
Or how about the energy exerted along with the sense of competition..
Anyway I trail ride....and about the only thing with that are the "sudden"
jolts/spooks....
Nancy in Virginia

GERD and PVC's

2007-04-28 04:29:26

I found this while surfing around. I personally don't have GERD,butI know some
of you
do.http://www.medicinenet.com/Script/main/Ques.asp?li=USA&d=235&f=437&QaKey=3467\
Melissa

Re:when are you getting this done

2007-04-27 19:35:38

Christine,
Good luck with your procedure tomorrow. You'll be fine. Many people
will be pulling for you!
-john
--- In PeoplewithPVCs@egroups.com, "christine jobe" <CHRISJ817@H...
done
on

Benign

2007-04-27 16:41:30

Hello everyone!
BENIGN. That is the word that needs to stand out in our minds to
keep
us positive. I watched an interview with Michael J. Fox on Good
Morning America, this morning, and the reality of how much worse
things could be hit me. I know I should be grateful that it is not
something malignant. Although, it is quite an effort for me to
maintain that state of mind. I just hope God gives me the grace that
it seems Susan has...49 years of this!
Also, I've been wondering what the drugs do for you. Do they help
mask the problem and provide relief from the sensation of the
symptoms, or do they actually correct/ regulate the heart? Which
drugs are most favored? I'm curious...
Lynna

Christine

2007-04-27 07:24:15

Hi there!
I will be thinking of you too!!! Good luck Christine. It will be
10:45 am here in Ontario Canada when you go in, I think. I hope I am
right. I wouldn't want to be late for this and be sending my brain
power at the wrong time. (hehe). I guess we will here from you
sometime tomorrow afternoon or Friday?
Keep smiling,
Mickey

pvc's and stomach problems

2007-04-27 06:25:44

Hello everyone,
Just a couple of questions.....I heard some talk about
the "sleepytime" tea from celestial seasonings. (is that right?) I
haven't tried it. Has it helped anyone? Does it have caffeine in it?
Also....some of you have mentioned having stomach problems. I have
been experiencing alot of gastrointestional problems here lately, but
haven't seen a doctor about it. I guess I am scared to run to my
doctor again with a different problem in fear of him thinking I'm a
looney case!!!! It just seems that my pvc's get worse when I have
alot of excessive gas or bloating. And I seem to get ALOT of it
lately. Does that sound crazy? I have been trying to figure out if
the chest tightness (not pain) that I get occasionally is due to my
mvp or if it gastro related. Any thoughts on this?
Have a good night!!! shellie :)

Aaron - Verapmil

2007-04-26 20:00:35

Hi Aaron
Is it you that has been taking Verapmil for a while. What doseage are you
on and do you have any side effects at all. Has it helped a real, real,
real lot?
As I mentioned in previous posts I have a prescription for it sitting in my
bag for when I'm desparate. I've had a lot lately and also feeling
soooooooo tired - stress I guess.......so I'm considering taking them.
Any info you can give me would be appreciated.
Thanks so much
Susan
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Pat

2007-04-26 19:55:59

Hi Pat,
How did your test go? Wasn't that just this past Saturday???
Mickey

Gord/Magnesium

2007-04-26 11:17:19

Hi Gord
I must admit that my Cardio told me to try magnesium first - before the
Verapmil. He said that a blood test for magnesium is very unreliable as mag
is an intracellular mineral.
He recommended chelated magnesium (supplying and elemental dose of 100mg per
tablet) with an initial dosage of about 4-6 tablets per day for the first
few months then tapering down to 3 per day.
It had sort of slipped my mind until you brought it up but I think I might
try this before I try the Verapmil.
These things also seem to be hereditary (my Dad had them for about 20 years)
so I wonder if some people maybe need more mg? Also whilst I was pregnant
and breastfeeding (sorry guys) my palps were verrrrry bad and you have
extremely low blood levels of mg at these times so maybe its a good thing to
try first. Thanks Gord for reminding me!!!!
:) Susan
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People with PVC's....regarding Sleepytime Tea

2007-04-26 06:37:16

Regarding Sleepytime Tea (the regular one you buy in the tea/coffee aisle), I have the box right in front of me here and it does say Caffeine Free. The one that Lynna is talking about is usually found over by the vitamins (at least at my store)...THAT one is much stronger as you can tell by the ingredients. Valerian is related to Valium, I've heard. The one I like is the regular old Sleepytime Tea which is very soothing and tastes good even without any sweetening. If it does make me sleepy, it's probably mostly because just sitting still for awhile with a warm cup in my hands is sleep inducing.<smile

Suzy

Count Our Blessings

2007-04-25 23:35:02

There are people dying only eighty miles away from where I live right
now because the towns drinking water was contaminated. Children and
elderly Grandparents are dying. This is so unfair. I can barely hold
back the tears as I write this. There is so much trouble all over the
world. So we have a funny heartbeat sometimes, atleast IT IS
BEATING!!! We need to count our blessings!!!
Don't mean to be harsh to anyone; just makes me realize how good my
life is.
Mickey

Grow up or grow old (inspirational story)

2007-04-25 17:52:29

Rose's DREAM
The first day of school our professor introduced himself and challenged us
to get to know someone we didn't already know. I stood up to look around
when a gentle hand touched my shoulder. I turned around to find a
wrinkled, little old lady beaming up at me with a smile
that lit up her entire being.
She said, "Hi handsome. My name is Rose. I'm eighty-seven years old. Can
I give you a hug?" I laughed and enthusiastically responded, "Of course you
may!" and she gave me a giant squeeze.
"Why are you in college at such a young, innocent age?" I asked. She
jokingly replied, "I'm here to meet a rich husband, get married, have a
couple of children, and then retire and travel."
"No seriously," I asked. I was curious what may have
motivated her to be taking on this challenge at her age.
"I always dreamed of having a college education and now
I'm getting one! she told me.
After class we walked to the student union building and
shared a chocolate milkshake. We became instant friends. Every day for
the next three months we would leave class together and talk nonstop. I was
always mesmerized listening to this "time machine" as she shared her
wisdom and experience with me.
Over the course of the year, Rose became a campus icon
and she easily made friends wherever she went. She loved to dress up and
she reveled in the attention bestowed upon her from the other students.
She was living it up.
At the end of the semester we invited Rose to speak at
our football banquet. I'll never forget what she taught us. She was
introduced and stepped up to the podium. As she began to deliver her
prepared speech, she dropped her three by five cards on the floor.
Frustrated and a little embarrassed she leaned into the microphone and
simply said "I'm sorry I'm so jittery. I gave up beer for Lent and this
whiskey is killing me! I'll never get my speech back in order so let me
just tell you what I know."
As we laughed she cleared her throat and began: "We do
not stop playing because we are old; we grow old because we stop playing.
There are only four secrets to staying young, being happy, and achieving
success. "You have to laugh and find humor every day. "You've got to have
a dream. When you lose your dreams, you die. We have so many people walking
around who are dead and don't even know it!"
"There is a huge difference between growing older and
growing up. If you are nineteen years old and lie in bed for one full
year and don't do one productive thing, you will turn twenty years old. If
I
am eighty-seven years old and stay in bed for a year and never do anything I
will turn eighty-eight. Anybody can grow older. That doesn't take any
talent or ability. The idea is to grow up by always finding the
opportunity in change."
"Have no regrets. The elderly usually don't have regrets for what we did,
but rather for things we did not do. The only people who fear death are
those with regrets."
She concluded her speech by courageously singing "The Rose." She challenged
each of us to study the lyrics and live them out in
our daily lives.
At the year's end Rose finished the college degree she
had begun all those years ago. One week after graduation Rose died
peacefully in her sleep. Over two thousand college students attended her
funeral in tribute to the wonderful woman who taught by example that it's
never too late to be all you can possibly be.
If you read this, please send this peaceful word of
advice to your friends and family, they'll really enjoy it! We send these
words in loving memory of ROSE @}
Remember, GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY, GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL.

re some herbal info

2007-04-25 08:19:37

My brother in law gave me a book and knows of people that have literally been cured by something called vilcacora.... I wrote them about arrythmias and they gave me a web site for more info....

http://www.rain-tree.com/indicate3.htm#H

Maybe it would interest some of you!!

Barb

Another little poem

2007-04-25 06:12:07

Hi all
I guess I'm feeling chirpier today as it's Friday - so my creative poetry
writing has again surfaced.
I've had these things for eleven years
Often they move me to absolute tears
I've tried hormones, magnesium, drugs and more
I'm finding it all an absolute bore.
I know more about my heart than my doc
My partner's become my steadying rock
Panic and I have become intimately known
I know this poem is starting to moan!
When I hear tales from all round the globe
About children and families; no food, no robes...
About floods and famines, death and despair
My emotions in turmoil I lay my soul bare.
I turn then to God -( I should talk to him more);
And give thanks for his grace, though my words may be poor
I have food, clothing, shelter and love most of all
I take a deep breath, face panic and stand tall!
Have a lovely weekend everyone.
My daughter's pony (Comet - a palomino) is arriving at our farm tomorrow.
Big excitement!!
Luv Susan in South Oz.
:)
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Christine!!!!

2007-04-24 17:03:34

How are you????????????
Mickey

Lifestyle threating/changing..... Yes-s-s-s-s

2007-04-24 16:53:52

From: "Suzy Finigan" <suzy1220@...
Subject: RE: Article - Robert.
<<<<<::::::::::::::::::
lifethreatening, but they ARE lifestyle-threatening. That is so
true.Message: 9
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:40:10 -0500
From: "Suzy Finigan" <suzy1220@...
Subject: RE: Article - Robert.
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lifethreatening, but they ARE lifestyle-threatening. That is so
true.<<<<<:::::::::::::
They have definitely altered my lifestyle....
The way I dress: (no tight clothing)
heat/humidity.....a no, no for me....
and for someone who lives to Trailride = that definitely is lifestyle
changing....
Most of you speak of skips and the like.
That is something I get just before: Palpitations...
A warning if I am lucky and maybe I can deep breath and keep from having
full-blown palpitations.
I know there were others on the list from time to time who spoke of
Palpitations.
These just go boom, boom, boom at a steady rate and then eventually slow and
quit....
But: they leave me tired and leave my heart feeling funny (vulnerable)
would be a good word...
Actually, I figure I am not going to be the same for rest of the day when
that happens...
Anyone else like this?
(and, of course, needless to say the Doctor says:
"..........i don't even need to fill this in any more do
I...........LOL..........."
Christine: I have followed your posts.....
Glad to see you are home and recovering..... *****smiles*****
Nancy in Virginia

HELLO I AM NEW HERE

2007-04-24 10:03:15

Hello everyone...I can't believe I found this site..I have been
having these heart palpitations since I was 20 (now 48). They are so
terrifying and ruin your quality of life. Actually I am sending this
because I think I have found the answer, although I am not counting
my chickens yet, because I could just be having a calm period. I read
somewhere that these palps can be caused by an out of whack adrenal
system, and that because of this our bodies are not able to handle
stress, even small amounts and that is why the pvc's. I have been
taking "ADRENA", which is a natural supplement from a health store,
for about a month now. Like I said I don't want to count my chickens,
but I have been doing so well. This adrena is supposed to balance the
adrenal system.. Also, I have been drinking mega amounts of water,
because I also read that the heart will act up when your body is
lacking water. Before this the only liquid I would drink was coffee,
and the odd juice or whatever, but never water. Anyway, so far so
good. I have only had a few minor episodes. I wanted to share this
with you all, because if we could find an answer maybe we can finally
get a life. I am so sick of listening to Drs. saying, blah, blah,
blah, and they aren't life threatening...It is so easy for them to
say, and I'd sure like to meet one that has experienced these palps,
and then see if the attitude changes..Maybe they aren't life
threatening, but they sure feel like they are, and that the heart
will just stop beating, and we'll drop dead..All the Drs. in the
world can tell us these things, but it doesn't take away that fear
when you experience these things. It has make most of my life
miserable, because I seem to be always living on the edge of fear.I'm
sure you have all been through this, and it is usually the first
thing on the mind when you wake up, wondering if and when one of
these attacks will hit..Sorry to babble, but I am good for this.
lol..and it feels so good to have some people who understand..My
husband and friends just don't get it..I always get the "Just learn
to relax, maybe your too anxious" Well, yeah, duh...they would feel
anxious too if they had a clue what was happening!!! okay, now I will
shut up...lol..thanks for listening, and please all, try
this "Adrena"..Who knows maybe this is the answer....Linda (babble
butt) lol

Adrena

2007-04-24 07:49:18

Hi, I like that!!! BooBooBabbleButt!!!! lol lol!!! BBBB..I got that
address from Mail.com...I Replied to Lisas posting, but it did not
get posted, so I guess I did something wrong...Now, could that be why
my nick name is booboo...lol...Anyway I am from Canada. I get the
adrena at any health food store...I really want to share this,
because I really am beginning to think that this is working so well
for me, and hopefully it will help others..Any thing is worth a try.
I can not believe the difference..only a few minor episodes since
taking this for about a month..Also wanted to ask if anyone has
noticed that these palps. are worse when your ill with the flu or
such, and also if anyone has palps. that move around..sometimes I got
them in the centre of the chest but have also experienced it over to
the left, and underneath the left rib cage, and sometimes below the
sternum area. Curious to know if anyone else has these..

RE.TV SHOWS

2007-04-23 19:24:49

Hi..I think the show you are talking about is called "Lost In
Space"..?????? I remember all the old shows..Mr. Ed, was another of
my favorites...Remember him?

Beclomethasone and pvcs

2007-04-23 17:27:13

Hi guys,
Anybody ever use beclomethasone nasal spray for allergies?
I have used it before but never realized till much later that maybe
it was causing some of my pvc's. Now my allergies are driving me
crazy and I am afraid to try the stuff again. My father gave good
advice but I was still a chicken. He said "oh you will probably
survive, whats worse a few funny beats or not being able to
breathe?" This comes from a man with alot of experience with pvcs
and pac's and atral fib so he must be right. After all at almost 76
and having had them for 37 years he should know. BUT I AM STILL A
CHICKEN!!!!
Oh well,
Mickey

Hello to you all

2007-04-23 06:27:07

How wonderful to have stumbled upon this group in my hour of
desperation!!! I have been a sufferer of the dreaded pvcs for about
15 years or more. Since the age of 23 when they first started I have
tried everything to get rid of the wretched things.... diet,
meditation, relaxation, vitamin supplements, homeopathy, exercise
etc. etc. What more can a woman do?? I have been driven crazy by
these flips and have, on many occasions, ended up in the ER with a
suspected heart attack.... which always turns out to be 'innocent
palpitations'. If only these doctors could feel what I feel at the
time they may be a little more sympathetic.
I am soooo glad I have found you all as I know others out there know
what i'm going through.
God bless you all
Julie S

Hi all

2007-04-23 02:25:31

Hello everybody
I always get a bit lonely to hear all the news when I'm not in at work for a
few days. I have enjoyed reading the 85! posts that were waiting!!
Lucky I got into the office early today!!
It is almost winter now here in South Australia and we had the coldest May
day on record over the weekend. It got down to 11 Celsius and even snowed
not far away from where I live in the Adelaide Hills. We don't usually get
any snow at all.
We got my daughters new pony over the weekend. He's a palomino called Comet
and is keeping us busy!!!
I said I would let everyone know (especially the women) how I have done with
the progesterone cream. Well I started using it mid cycle and am now on day
27 of my cycle and have started tapering off it until next mid cycle.
Surprise, surprise I have not had one single pvc/pac (that I have felt
anyway) for the last few weeks. Also my pre-menstrual moodiness has not
been apparent at all. All this has been even more incredible seeing that I
am in the midst of withdrawal from Zoloft which has been hell every time I
tried before.
I've now been Zoloft free for 8 days - the withdrawal symptoms have been
horrible - tingling all over, headaches, dizziness etc. - but even with all
this somehow I feel better. I also feel that "me" is coming back - I felt
so numbed out on the Zoloft. I am laughing more, feeling more - whether it
be good feelings or bad feelings - and this is how it should be!! So for
anyone out there considering taking Zoloft or any other SSRI anti depressant
please be aware that contrary to what some people will tell you there are
definite withdrawal symptoms and these can occur for up to 8 weeks after
completely stopping - even with a tapered reduction like mine has been.
Well I guess I have babbled on enough. Sorry for the length of this post.
Don - enjoy your business trip to Australia - which part are you coming to?
Hugs to all
Susan/South Australia.
Ms. Susan Bentley--
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Don --fishing

2007-04-22 23:44:09

Don

I forgot to ask, because my husband wants to know 'what kind of fish did you catch?'

He said maybe it's just garfish!?!?!? I think he's just jealous of the amount!!

Barb

(no subject)

2007-04-22 16:15:08

Hello! I hope everyone had a wonderful memorial day weekend!
Peta...thanks for that heartwarming story. It put a smile on my face
and made my day!
Don.....I have a mild mitral valve leak. (I have mvp though) Make
sure you take an antibiotic before dental appointments or surgeries.
Dave....thanks for the "sleepy time" advice. I will definetely give
it a try and let you know how it works for me.
Linda....what you said about the adrenals makes sooooo much sense. If
I get overly exicited, pumped up, or stressed out, my heart starts
skipping all over. Sometimes I am scared to get too "excited" in fear
of giving myself a heart attack! I do tend to get to a little
cautious though when I try an over the counter herb remedy for the
heart. I tried Coq10 a while back and it sent me to the emergency
room with "severe" palps. I couldn't believe it because all the
claims about it are that it is really good for the heart, and is
suppose to be good for straightening out arrythmias. Oh well. At
least I can't say I didn't try!!
Has anyone ever heard that people with arrythmias shouldn't take
antacids? I read this somewhere. (I think on the bottle)
Hope everyone has a good night!
Shellie :)

Susan

2007-04-22 08:58:40

Hi Susan,
May I ask why you stopped taking the Zoloft? I have been taking it for
about five months now for anxiety and mild depression and have found it to be
very, very helpful. I also have Klonopin for when I need it. I do not take
the Klonopin regularly. I have managed to do a lot of research on panic and
anxiety attacks and have learned to control them for the most part through
relaxation techniques and deep breathing techniques. I have found the Zoloft
to help the PVC's as well.
Andrea

foot in the grave ;-)

2007-04-22 03:47:07

Mickey,
Ha ha! But remember, everybody in this group is going to live past
100, so we got a lot of bad, bad TV shows in the future to have to
suffer through!
-john

I Survived

2007-04-21 17:31:01

As if there was a doubt (smile), I made it through the night. I'm
still feeling constant PVCs and I don't dare count how many per
minute...it seems like 60! Suzy, thanks for the pointer on the
book. I have a Borders gift certificate that I received at Christmas
time and I think this is the perfect time to use it.

HI Guys!!

2007-04-21 14:26:42

Lynna,
I hope you are feeling better today. My husband has been very
frustrated with me at times, also. It is pretty hard on them too.
They just don't understand. Well ,they try. Times will be tough but
you will make it through. Suzy's suggestions sound great! Master your
Panic and take back your life. I am going to look for that book. I
have a Bible that I use and it also helps quite a bit.
Anyway, hang in there!!!!
Mickey (Little Twerp but an adorable one I must say!!)

Lynna

2007-04-21 06:32:30

Hi Lynna,
Sorry to hear about how the PVC's were effecting you. Did you eat or drink
anything different? Have you been under an unusual amount of stress? When
mine come along in multiples it is usually caffeine or excessive stress that
were the culprits. Hang in there Girl, we're pulling for ya.
Andrea

Lump in the throat - anyone else?

2007-04-21 00:50:13

Lately, I've been getting this feeling like there is a lump in
my throat. It happens even when I am not having PVCs.
It feels like I have a pill stuck in my throat. It doesn't
interfere with eating or swallowing, it's just there. I've
had it off and on for the past week or so. It isn't a sore
throat and it's not allergies or post-nasal drip. Maybe a
muscle spasm?
Does anyone else get this? If so, do you know what it is
and how to make it go away?
Thanks,
Diana

Licorice

2007-04-21 00:09:05

Any thoughts out there? I can't have black licorice any more. Does a very very
bad number on me. Found out over Easter (love black jelly beans, almost as much
as chocolate). Is black licorice made from the licorice root? If that's the
case, does that mean I could do bad on Adrena or could the other ingredients
offset the response to the licorice? I guess I would like to try it but should
probably talk to doc first since there are herbs in it.
Linda Boo Boo, did you talk to your doc about it before taking it? Recommended
dosage? Approx. how much does it cost you for a month's supply? Sorry so many
questions ; ).
Dani

Hello everyone! I'm new!

2007-04-20 19:36:08

Hello everyone!
I'm new here...but I'm no stranger to PVC's.
My name is Lee, I'm 33 and I'm from Louisiana. I've been
having PVC's for 11 years now. My first episode
was when I was pregnant with my last child. I went
to the emergency room thinking that I was dying! The
attending phsyician taught me five maneuvers to
slow down my heart rate. I only remember three...rub
my neck vain...cough...put my face in ice water. Those
are the one's that worked for me. After that I went to see a
cardiologist, he said that everything was okay with my heart
and prescribed a beta blocker for me. It helped but
not entirely.
I kept a diary of all my episodes, what
triggered them and when. I saw an internist for a few years,
who only wanted to drug me with antidepressants and Xanax. I began
to notice that my episodes occured mostly around ovulation
and menstruation. I dumped the internist and here I am.
Right now I'm seeing another cardiologist, my GYN and
my family physician and they are all working really hard
to help me get to the bottom of these PVC's. My cardiologist
put me on an exercise program. My GYN is taking hormone
tests...and my family physician put me on an anti-anxiety
medication called BuSpar. The BuSpar really works but
when my cycle rolls around so do my PVC's. I know this
is hormone related...just not for sure until I get results.
I'm so glad I ran into this group and I hope to make
lots of friends here.
Lee...from La

Christine &amp; Shopping

2007-04-20 15:57:53

<snip
shopping for my birthday with my dad. We would get out of the car and go
inside the store and I would have all my syptoms but when we left the store
and got in the truck they would go away. Each store same thing.
----
First, Happy Birthday! I have had more PVC's in malls than I can count. Do not know why. But, by chance were you wearing anything tight around the waist yesterday? I used to set off PVC's whenever I got in and out of my truck, I thing because of the way my clothes constricted me in the middle and maybe pushed up the diaphragm? This speaks to the digestive system/vagal nerve issue again...
Anyway, hope you are feeling better!
Lisa

Names 'r Us

2007-04-20 06:35:35

When I'm on the computer, I tell my husband I'm writing to my palpitator group and he just rolls his eyes.<smile
So does mine! But I call it my "Heart Flutter Group." I even have a folder for good posts named "Ticker", as in "My ol' ticker's actin' up again..." I still think my favorite was awhile back when we were talking about singing groups and someone suggested "The Arrhythmics!"
Lisa

Patricia Markley

2007-04-20 00:33:21

EXACTLY! It can make you feel so hopeless, but that's not GOD's work
if you know what I mean. I'm feeling better than the other night,
but boy was I a basket case! Everyone here has been so supportive
and I hope I am able to return the love in your times of need.
The PVCs are still full steam and I keep praying my Doctor was
correct about my condition...benign. Today, I purchased some
magnesium supplements so we'll see if that helps me. If it does, I'm
going to call my cardiologist and rip him a new one (how tacky)! I
mean, how could something so simple not be recommended if it
works?!!!!
--- In PeoplewithPVCs@egroups.com, "PATRICIA E MARKLEY"

another nite of panic!!

2007-04-19 17:48:52

Help!!

Anyone out there yet? It's 11:40pm and I've been trying to fall asleep for over an hour. I've been jerked up out of dosing a few times, that even woke my husband up. I'm having the POUNDING that I even feel it through my whole body and the mattress. And it just feels like my heart is stopping.... my pulse gets lower every time I check. Started walking around, got some cold water, and finally took a lorezepam now, I guess that shouldn't make my heart any slower!!

Tell me someone you get this too.... I already felt like going to the ER, but that usually comes out the same......and I'm hoping this is nothing more this time...

Almost fainted this morning, but I didn't feel my heart flipping, it was a severe pain in my back, from Monday, went for massage therapy, layed around all day on a heating pad, ended up with a migraine, and now for the night my heart acts up.....You would think after a day like that I would just sleep...

Sorry to sound like a babbling panicky fool...BUT it's one of those nights.

Barb

Barb

2007-04-19 08:55:20

Barb,
This may come a little late to have helped you last night, but I have
experienced the same thing. Sunday night was one of those nights. I don't
really feel any PVC's I just have a feeling that my heart is not beating right,
I have had my husband take my pulse...he says it's okay (but I'm not sure I
believe him). Laying on either side seems to make the whole situation worse. I
begin to fall asleep and like you feel as if I'm jerked awake. I'm not sure
that this is really coming from the heart, I think it's more of a reflex thing.
I have also had the pounding heart for hours on end. I can feel it pulsing from
my head to my toes. It's really hard to fall asleep with that feeling! My
doctor at one point said the pounding was probably just blood pressure because
when you are lying flat the heart is pumping harder to move the blood throughout
your body (to me it seems like it would have to pump harder when you're
standing).
I have learned not to fight it. I turn on the TV and prop myself up and
just ride it out until I fall asleep. It's really easy to panic, especially at
night, and that just makes everything worse. I use to lay there wide awake
worrying about #1 my heart stopping and #2 how would I ever get up for work in
the morning. Now I just try not to think about it and I know that the next
night I will fall asleep right away and sleep like a baby. I have read others
on the list take something to help them sleep and I think that would probably be
a good thing when needed. Hope you are feeling better today.
Jen in PA

hehehe

2007-04-19 06:18:13

HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry everyone....I didn't realise that it would come across
that way, but now that I look at it, well.....hehehehehehe I'm still
giggling. Well actually it would work on our significant others too....lol
Peta

Going home now!

2007-04-18 18:57:57

Hi everyone
Thanks all for chatting today. I'm tired and I'm going home ....YAY!!
Ready to curl up in front of the fire tonight with a hot chocolate (or two)
- I'm not going to worry about pvc's and chocolate.
I hope everyone has a good day or night wherever you happen to be in the world.
Hugs from Susan.
Ms. Susan Bentley--
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SOS Children's Villages
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steve..

2007-04-18 11:51:45

Steve,
Just thought you might want to know that I get over 10,000 pvc's a day. I
used to be just like you, worrying about them all the time and letting them
control my life. You have to accept that it's just one of those things, and
the best thing you can do is just accept it. I totally ignore mine now, I
have stopped taking beta blockers and I run two miles a day and work out at
the gym three times a week. I get drunk whenever I feel like it, have the
occasional joint, and generally enjoy my life more than I did BEFORE the
pvc's. The only time I notice my pvc's now is when I try to. My cardio did
a holter last week just out of curiosity, and it showed around 10,427.
Funny becasue I hardly feel them now, which just goes to show they're
totally harmless. 660 a day? forget it man!
James.

CHEST TIGHTNESS

2007-04-18 05:10:38

Hi all..I was wondering if any one here gets chest tightness. Also
sometimes in the back. It doesn't really hurt it just feels very
uncomfortable. I think the lump in the throat is probably anxiety.. I
have gotten a sensation of not being able to swallow, like something
at the very back of my nose is closing off..I was told this was
anxiety.It's quite amazing what this anxiety can do to the body. The
funny thing I find is that I don't always feel anxious when these
things happen..Like the heart palps. that I have been told again, and
again that it is because I am anxious..This is so unrelated to when I
get them, which is usually when I finally sit down for the day, or in
bed..Hard to believe sometimes, that these things won't kill ya!!!
Some times there seems to be a bit of pain with them too...I have not
had one for close to a month, but last night it was acting up again.
I had not taken that Adrena for 3 days, because I am on antibiotics,
and didn't want to take both. It sure helps to know that there are
others out there, because this alone made it so much better last
night. I didn't feel as scared as I usually do..just thinking that
finally someone out there knows what it feels like. Also, that
someone other than a Doctor, was saying I would not die from these. I
really didn't believe them..Well everyone, this is BBBB
BooBooBabbleButt signing off.........

Hello everyone! I'm new!

2007-04-17 23:17:12

Hi Suzy!
Maybe this is the story you were thinking of ?! It's a good one
anyway!! I remember I couldn't wait to tell all of you this story
when I came back from Vegas last January. I have been getting so much
better at not letting these annoying pvcs interfere with my life.
Having a new, nice, kind, thoughtful, incredibly gorgeous boyfriend is
definitely helping!!! : ) I am finally returning to living my life -
playing, laughing a lot, trying lots of new things, drinking beer with
friends, and loving every minute of it. I don't think until recently
that I realized the tremendous impact on my life from the stress of
living in a bad relationship with someone who was very degrading and
cruel to me. Now happily divorced, I'm able to go on!!! Yeah!! Still
have pvcs - in fact last week I drank a decaf latte at Starbucks and
soon after the pvcs set in with a vengeance (I'm guessing it wasn't
decaf) thousands and thousands for about 10 hours . . . but, I just
kept doing all my normal things and refused to let them ruin my day.
I was very proud of myself. I've come along way in the past two years
and especially since November after joining this group. You are all
the greatest!!!!! : ) :o) = )
(Dawn, hope things are going well for you. I can definitely relate to
your situation right now and I hope the divorce works out positively
for you too. : ))
Jean
Here's the story!
I went to Las Vegas with my birth family and my birth dad's
mother-in-law came with us. We did this same trip last year and she
came then also. She is 76 years old and just about the most fun,
lively, energetic person I have ever met. Her incredible enthusiasm
for life made me adore her instantly. Well, this weekend someone was
asking me about the EP study I'd had done on my heart, and when I
started trying to explain these heart things I've gone through, she
chimed in, "Oh, I have the most irregular heart beat, and I have had
for as long as I can remember." She had me feel her pulse and it is
incredibly irregular. She has pvcs, pacs. and pauses that are soooo
long you don't think her heart will even start again, and she said it
is constantly like that and has been for as long as she could recall.
She also gets episodes of tachycardia and pounding beats. Even my
most irregular times pale in comparison to what she lives with all
the time. She said she took Norpace for several years at one point
years ago, but didn't like being on it so she just took herself off
and hasn't been on anything since. I asked her if it bothered her
having her heart beating so irregularly constantly, and she said it
did at first, but she's had the problem so long she just doesn't pay
any attention to it anymore. She also said she had not had a
cardiology workup because she had the problem for so long, she didn't
feel there was anything dangerous about it and no point to doing a
bunch of testing. Her responses just blew me away!! She is proof
you can live with this problem and not let it interfere with your
life! You can live a productive, full, happy life with this problem,
if you don't let it bother you; it is all a matter of attitude. I
wish you could all meet her and feel her pulse (it would probably
make most of what you experience seem not so bad), and see what an
incredibly amazing, vibrant person she is . . . she is still going
strong at 76. My last night in Las Vegas as she and I were playing
these silly video nickel slot machines at 4:00 in the morning
(everyone else had given up and gone to bed) laughing constantly and
having so much fun, I realized the tremendous amount of inspiration I
had gained from her sharing her story with me. I will always view
these problems now from a new perspective, and I know I can live life
with the same enthusiasm she has, if I can completely let go of the
fear and allow myself to live it. :o).

Another chronic sufferer of PVC's

2007-04-17 20:29:08

Hello everyone,
Well, I just wanted to introduce myself. I am an otherwise healthy 27
year old Male. I've had PVC's for about 4-5 years now. I never really
noticed it as a problem because it was just something I dealt with on a very
rare occasion. Well, they kept getting progressively worse to the point where
it started really scaring my ex girlfriend. One night after some mild
drinking & making love to her, my heart really started acting up. I've seen a
lot of people talk of many palpatations per minute, but mine aren't like that
most of the time. The best way I can describe mine is that my heart feels
like it will skip several beats & then WHAM. It feels like someone hitting me
in the chest with a lot of force from the inside out. Then it will beat
normally for about 3-10 beats & then Wham again. Well, that night, she
convinced me to go to the doctor's after about an hour of begging. I went to
the ER, got a quick EKG done & was told they were PVC's and I should go home &
try to get some rest. I was like Yeah, you try to rest feeling like this.
They just kinda shrugged me off & left me there with my discharge papers.
Well, I guess that night, I just decided I should live with it & not worry
about it. That was about a year ago. Since then, they have gotten
progressively worse, however, I can go a week or so without any major
palpatations, but they are always there. Anyway, Tuesday morning, It was a
highly stressful day for me. I started experiencing the PVC's along with
chest pain, nausiousness, and lightheadedness. This had been a first for me.
Well, it was a first that I had noticed. I had my roomate take me to the ER
because I had remembered the people at the ER previously telling me that if I
ever experience chest pain to go get checked out immediately. I went & they
kept me over night. Throughout the night, the nurse kept coming in & waking
me because of the palpatations she was monitoring. In the morning, I had the
echocardiogram/stress test done & all results came back normal. I am
concerned about my condition, but it is nice to see other people that are
going through the same feelings that I am. My question is has anyone with a
"normal" heart such as mine had any serious problems that have required
immediate medical attention and or surgery? I am really glad to have found
this list and hope to be able to provide information to people as I learn more
myself.
Zac

I too suffer PVC's

2007-04-17 14:45:58

Hi guys,
I am a new member and I live in Australia. I have been suffering
missed or skipped beats and ectopic beats for the past six years. I
have also been suffering from anxiety and panic attacks. I have had
the usual tests eg: holter moniter, ECG and ultrasound and my doctor
told me that they are all in normal range. It doesn't feel normal to
me. I decided to get on the net and look up palpitations and I am so
relieved that I am not alone. I have felt so alone for so long. My
family and friends do not know the hell I have been suffering with
this problem. I have had terrible thoughts that I am going to die
etc. and these thoughts feed my anxiety and panic attacks. I am
starting to live with it but it is really hard. I could talk about
this for ever, but I am really interested in hearing from anyone with
the same problem. Also does anyone use the chat section on this sight
as I would love to chat to you.
Leah

I feel blaaaah

2007-04-17 09:56:34

Hi all
Well after almost 6 weeks with NO palps they're back from last night onwards
with a vengeance.
I am on my 7th day break from progesterone cream so wonder if that has
anything to do with it - however I'm also on my 3rd week of total withdrawal
from Zoloft and this has made my anxiety levels very high so I guess this
may also have something to do with it.
Do any of you ever absolutely DRAG yourself out of bed after a night of
palpitations and get yourself off to work. All I could think about doing
this morning was staying in bed! I'm soooooooo tired!
Also - another question - does anyone ever wake up in the middle of having
pvc's. It happened to me last night - I was having a dream and woke up and
my heart was in the middle of a run of them.
I HATED it! I hate these things...........I just want to be normal again.
I had them in the middle of a meeting at work today and had to excuse myself
- how do others cope with this??
Thanks for letting me vent.
Susan
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Question about Digoxin

2007-04-17 06:10:40

Hi.
I was wondering if any of you know anything about Digoxin. (sp)
My father been taking this for 5 years now. About one week ago he
started getting very tired and it wasn't going away, ( he is 76 this
year)so finally he went to the ER today with my Mom where they
checked him out and said everything was fine. The only thing they
found was too much digoxin in his blood. Could this make him over
tired?? Why suddenly after all this time.
I am going to look for some info on this but I was hoping you guys
could help me out.
Thanks,
Mickey

(no subject)

2007-04-16 21:52:18

Hi Everyone, After a blissful year of no pvc's (or just an occasional
one or two), they're baaaaaack! I've been waking up with them in the
morning, having major runs of them all day and go to bed early at night
because I'm tired of dealing with them and figure maybe if I go to
sleep, I'll get a break.
I was up at 3am the other night with my rib cage hurting from the
constant palps, but I just tried to remember that they're benign and
unless I'm having chest pressure and nausea to indicate a heart attack,
I should just ride them out. Surprisingly at work, they went away
yesterday and I had a break until about an hour before i leave. Might
be the stress of the last hour of work and rushing to get out of there.
But today I'm off and I have them again. I'm drinking my 1/2 decaf and
1/2 regular coffee now and eating a chocolate breakfast bar...I know I
know...I shouldn't have either, but I'm tired of letting this rule my
life. I think I'd have them whether I had caffeine or not. I am being
more diligent with my mag/cal supps and coq10 and hawthorn. I really
believe they help.
I think there is a connection between people with sinus problems,
such as allergies and pvc's.
Hope everyone has a great day today. I plan on keeping as busy as
possible so I can ignore the "thumps". Being slender and not having
much meat on my rib cage, I think might make them more
noticable.....cindy

TRIGGERS &amp; HELPERS

2007-04-16 18:14:17

Hi everyone..I was just talking to someone today that has PVC's and
she was told that Aspartame in pops etc. are a trigger for these, and
also chemically decaffinated coffee. Everyone might already know
this , but just in case I thought I would mention it..She also said
that garlic supplement is supposed to help with these..Just a thought
anyways....BBBB (Oh lord, I just said what I wanted to say, and
didn't babble) That is amazing...lol

aspartame or nutrasweet

2007-04-16 12:04:30

John,
Please be very careful regarding any information that you run across on the
net regarding aspartame or nutrasweet. There has been quite a bit of hoax
(or misinformation if you prefer) information that has been posted on the
web. Please check any of the sites against any of the various hoax site,
including http://www.nonprofit.net/hoax/hoax.html
Regarding the 2 products (aspartame and nutrasweet) - Since Kathryn is a
diabetic, we use them a lot. They work very well and her problems (PVC,
PACs, angina, heart failure, ...) is not due to these products but due to
being a long term diabetic (50 + years --- still haven't figured that one
out - she is only 29!).
I hope that you have a wonderful, quiet day.
derrick & Kathryn

(no subject)

2007-04-15 23:02:20

Hi Everyone, I think it's awfully strange that people with "benign"
migraines, or "benign" irritable bowel are taken seriously by
physicians! They are treated and given advice and booklets on how to
deal with them. Years ago no one knew what irritable bowel was. Now,
you walk into Borders and there is a shelf of books on the subject. I
think there may be hope for our "benign" pvc's yet. They are not life
threatening, but they are life altering. It's hard to ignore them if
they've lasted for a few days. They bring on headaches and rib pain.
Cardiologists should take note, and research the subject, write a book
and make a buck! Who knows, maybe after some research they will find
that we have stronger hearts than most people because of the pvc's!
Hope everyone has a GREAT and pvc free night. I lucked out today
and only had a few in the morning. talk to you all later cindy

Am I crazy?

2007-04-15 22:18:34

Hi all,
I could be the woman with everything. I have a wonderful family, a
lovely home, a good income and lifestyle. I eat right, work out at
the gym three times a week and have been told I look good for my age
- 44. However my life has been blighted by these palpitations. They
have spoilt many occasions for me as I have been taking my pulse and
worrying about whether I will meet my 'maker' rather than enjoying
myself. I expect you all understand this scenario. I also keep my
'irregularities' close to my heart (pardon the pun) and don't confide
in anyone, except my husband, about my fears and symptoms. I think
this is a psychological problem I have. I believe that for me they
show a weakness in personality. I know this isn't really the case but
because I panic and have terrible anxiety symptoms I feel I am of
weak character. Am I crazy to think this and does anyone else have
these beliefs? I feel I can only be an extrovert and outgoing person
by keeping these anxieties and pvcs to myself.
Thanks to this group I can vent these stupid ideas.
Gill

triggersn and helpers

2007-04-15 16:36:46

Suzy - I agree with eliminating anything that you can that is artificial.
We have done that from more of a drug interaction perspective than anything
else. A number of years ago, we found that our oldest daughter is allergic
to the preservative used in most peanut butters! Not the peanuts - the
preservative.
All of our juices are just plain juice - that is something that is wonderful
to shop for! Looking at all of the frozen or bottled juices for sugar,
nutrasweet or any of the other sweeting agents. When I am cooking or
baking, I use fruit juice as the sweeting agent - and that takes a lot of
experimentation (boy I am glad that Kathryn likes my flops).
We have both cut down (or cut out) on the use of anything that we can. We
are now following a modified vegitiarn diet (some fish and fowl - no red
meat). You should see our 4 year old - he LOVES salads!
Kathryn does have her favorites. Which include chocolate ice cream with
peanut butter swirled in. I make yogurt (no sweetener) and fix in fruit and
then freeze it (I like that). But Kathryn still likes an occasional dip of
chocolate & peanut butter.
derrick & Kathryn
fingers cramping, mouse causing blisters, glow from monitor blurring vision,
.....must......keep.....posting

New Website, etc. LONG!

2007-04-15 08:33:34

This morning on Good Morning America (2 hr. am news show, for you folks in
other parts of the world!) they featured a WAY COOL NEW REFERENCE SITE.
<www.libraryspot.com
encyclopedia, almanacs, lists, OH! I could go on and on and on. I browsed
about in some of the links and found the following. (NOW remember, you guys,
don't get mired in the medical only! There is more cool info packed into
this site than any for LOTS OF OTHER TOPICS. We DO have other interests,
right? ;o)
Merriam-Webster defines benign as (We should all frame this!):
Main Entry: beˇnign
Pronunciation: bi-'nIn
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English benigne, from Middle French, from Latin
benignus, from bene + gignere to beget -- more at KIN
Date: 14th century
1 : of a gentle disposition : GRACIOUS <a benign teacher
2 a : showing kindness and gentleness <benign faces
WHOLESOME <a benign climate
3 a : of a mild type or character that does not threaten health or life <a
benign tumor
benign
MedicineNet.com's Medical Reference dictionary defines benign as:
Benign: Not cancer; does not invade surrounding tissue or spread to other
parts of the body.
That same dictionary defines PVC's as follows:
Premature ventricular contractions (PVCs): Contractions of the lower
chambers of the heart, the ventricles, which occur earlier than usual,
because of abnormal electrical activity of the ventricles. The premature
contraction is followed by a pause, as the heart electrical system "resets"
itself and the contraction following the pause is usually more forceful than
normal. These more forceful contractions are frequently perceived as
palpitations.

Sinus and Allergies

2007-04-15 08:22:36

I have sinus and allergy trouble year round. I am allergic to dust
dogs, cats, trees, grass, you name it.
When it's really bad I have a few flip flops here and there, but if I
take anything for it. They are much worse. There is just no winning
as far as that goes. I usually just tough it all out. Getting tired
of it lately though. Would really like to breathe freely again.
Mickey

(no subject)

2007-04-14 17:32:28

Hi Don and all, Yes it was great going without pvc's, but I knew that
they would return. I've had them for years. I haven't had any bouts
with my seasonal allergies until about a week ago.... about the same
time my pvc's kicked in again.
Today was a GREAT day. Hardly noticed them. I was off work and
tried to keep busy all day. My doctor told me at my last check up to
continue with my fast paced walking to regulate the heart beat.
I think that every so often these pvc's kick in with different
triggers such as a bad cold, allergies, stress, aggravation. Just like
someone who gets ulcers, migraines...our achilles heel is the pvc's. At
least they are not life threatening...but neither is a migraine, or
irritable bowel,mild ulcers, and there is more information out there for
the sufferers of those problems!
So it's back to this great group for me, my supplements, exercise
every morning, and practicing relaxation every day. I don't want
another BAD night like I had 2 nights ago....up at 3am with my heart
going crazy. Take care to everyone in the group cindy

(no subject)

2007-04-14 14:41:04

Hi Everyone, I know this is lengthy, but maybe some of you in the group
would like to print this info I found surfing around today.. something
to read for reassurance when the pvc's start up cindy:
The Merck Manual of Medical Information--Home
Edition
Section 3. Heart and Blood Vessel Disorders
Chapter 16
Abnormal Heart Rhythms
The heart is a muscular organ with four chambers designed to
work efficiently,
reliably, and continuously over a lifetime. The muscular
walls of each chamber
contract in a precise sequence, pushing along the most blood
while expending the
least possible energy during every heartbeat.
The contraction of the muscle fibers in the heart is
controlled by an electrical
discharge that flows through the heart in a precise manner
along distinct pathways
and at a controlled speed. The rhythmic discharge that begins
each heartbeat
originates in the heart's pacemaker (sinoatrial node), which
lies in the wall of the
right atrium. The rate of discharge is influenced by nerve
impulses and by levels of
hormones circulating through the bloodstream.
The part of the nervous system that regulates the heart rate
automatically is the
autonomic nervous system, which consists of the sympathetic
and
parasympathetic nervous systems. The sympathetic system
speeds up the heart
rate; the parasympathetic system slows it down. The
sympathetic system supplies
the heart with a network of nerves, the sympathetic plexus.
The parasympathetic
system supplies the heart through a single nerve, the vagus
nerve.
Heart rate is also influenced by the sympathetic system's
circulating
hormones--epinephrine (adrenaline) and norepinephrine
(noradrenaline)--which
speed up the heart rate. Thyroid hormone influences heart
rate as well. With too
much thyroid hormone, the heart beats too fast; with too
little, it beats too slowly.
The normal heart rate at rest is usually between 60 and 100
beats per minute.
However, much lower rates may be normal in young adults,
particularly those who
are physically fit. Variations in heart rate are normal. The
heart rate responds not
only to exercise and inactivity but also to stimuli such as
pain and anger. Only
when the heart rate is inappropriately fast (tachycardia) or
slow (bradycardia) or
when the electrical impulses travel in abnormal pathways is
the heartbeat
considered to have an abnormal rhythm (arrhythmia). Abnormal
rhythms may be
regular or irregular.
Electrical Pathway
The electrical discharge from the pacemaker flows first
through the
left and right atria, causing muscle tissue to contract in
sequence
and blood to be ejected from the atria to the ventricles. The
electrical
discharge then reaches the atrioventricular node between the
atria
and the ventricles. This node delays transmission of the
electrical
discharge to allow the atria to contract completely and the
ventricles
to fill with as much blood as possible during ventricular
diastole, the period of
ventricular relaxation.
After passing through the atrioventricular node, the
electrical discharge travels
down the bundle of His, a group of fibers that divide into a
left bundle for the left
ventricle and a right bundle for the right ventricle. The
discharge then spreads in
an orderly manner over the surface of the ventricles,
initiating ventricular
contraction (systole), during which blood is ejected from the
heart.
Various problems can occur with this flow of electrical
current, resulting in
arrhythmias ranging from harmless to life threatening. Each
type of arrhythmia has
its own cause, but some causes can trigger a variety of
arrhythmias. Minor
arrhythmias may be triggered by excessive alcohol
consumption, smoking, stress,
or exercise. Overactive and underactive thyroid function and
some drugs, especially
those used to treat lung disease and some used to treat high
blood pressure, may
affect the rate and rhythm of the heart. The most common
cause of arrhythmias is
heart disease, particularly coronary artery disease, abnormal
heart valve function,
and heart failure. Sometimes arrhythmias occur without any
detectable underlying
heart disease or other cause.
Symptoms
The awareness of one's heartbeat (called palpitations) varies
widely among people.
Some people can feel even normal heartbeats. At times when
lying on the left side,
most people can feel the heart beating. Also, people may be
aware of abnormal
heartbeats. Often, the awareness of one's heartbeat is
disturbing, but usually it
doesn't result from an underlying disease. Rather, it results
from unusually strong
contractions that occur periodically for a variety of
reasons.
A person who has a certain type of arrhythmia tends to have
that same arrhythmia
repeatedly. Some types of arrhythmias cause few or no
symptoms but eventually
cause problems. Other arrhythmias never cause serious
problems but do cause
symptoms. Often, the nature and severity of the underlying
heart disease are more
important than the arrhythmia itself.
When arrhythmias affect the heart's ability to pump blood,
they can produce
light-headedness, dizziness, and fainting (syncope). (see
page 108 in Chapter 23,
Low Blood Pressure) Arrhythmias that produce these symptoms
require prompt
attention.
Diagnosis
A person's description of symptoms often can help a doctor
make a preliminary
diagnosis and determine the severity of the arrhythmia. The
most important
considerations are whether a person with palpitations
describes the heartbeats as
fast or slow, regular or irregular, brief or prolonged;
whether the person feels
dizzy, light-headed, or faint or even loses consciousness;
and whether chest pain,
shortness of breath, or other unusual sensations occur along
with the palpitations.
A doctor also needs to know whether the palpitations occur at
rest or only during
strenuous or unusual activity and whether they start and stop
suddenly or
gradually.
Usually, some additional testing is needed to determine the
exact nature of the
condition. Electrocardiography (see illustration, page 74) is
the main diagnostic
procedure for detecting arrhythmias. This test provides a
graphic representation of
the arrhythmia.
However, an electrocardiogram (ECG) shows the heart rhythm
over only a very
brief time, and often arrhythmias are intermittent. Thus, a
portable monitor (Holter
monitor), (see illustration, page 75) which is worn for 24
hours, can provide more
information. This monitor can record sporadic arrhythmias as
the person goes
about a normal daily routine. The person also keeps a diary
of symptoms during
the 24-hour period. People with suspected life-threatening
arrhythmias are
generally hospitalized for monitoring.
When a sustained, life-threatening arrhythmia is suspected,
electrophysiologic
studies may be helpful. A catheter containing wires is
threaded through a vein and
into the heart. Electrical stimulation and sophisticated
monitoring are combined to
determine the type of arrhythmia and the most likely response
to treatment. Most
serious arrhythmias can be detected by this technique.
Prognosis and Treatment
The prognosis depends in part on whether an arrhythmia begins
in the heart's
normal pacemaker, the atria, or the ventricles. In general,
those starting in the
ventricles are more serious, although many of them aren't
harmful.
Most arrhythmias neither cause symptoms nor interfere with
the pumping action of
the heart, so they pose little or no risk. Nevertheless,
arrhythmias can cause
considerable anxiety if a person becomes aware of them.
Understanding their
harmlessness may be reassurance enough. Sometimes, when a
doctor changes a
person's medications or adjusts the dosages, or when a person
avoids alcohol or
strenuous exercise, arrhythmias occur less often or even
stop.
Antiarrhythmic drugs are useful for suppressing arrhythmias
that cause intolerable
symptoms or pose a risk. No single drug cures all arrhythmias
in all people.
Sometimes several drugs must be tried until a satisfactory
one is found.
Antiarrhythmic drugs can produce side effects and can worsen
or even cause
arrhythmias.
Artificial pacemakers, electronic devices that act in place
of the heart's own
pacemaker, are programmed to imitate the normal conduction
sequence of the
heart. Usually, they're implanted surgically under the skin
of the chest and have
wires running to the heart. Because of low-energy circuitry
and new battery
designs, these units now last about 8 to 10 years. New
circuitry has almost
completely eliminated the risk of interference from
automobile distributors, radar,
microwaves, and airport security detectors. Some
equipment--such as machines
used in magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and diathermy
(physical therapy used to
bring heat to muscles)--may, however, interfere with
pacemakers.
The most common use of pacemakers is to treat abnormally slow
heart rates.
When the heart slows below a set threshold, the pacemaker
begins to fire off
electrical impulses. Very rarely, a pacemaker is used to
deliver a series of impulses
to stop an abnormally fast rhythm and slow the heart rate.
Such pacemakers are
used only for fast rhythms that start in the atria.
Sometimes an electric shock to the heart can stop an abnormal
rhythm and restore
a normal one; using an electric shock for this purpose is
called cardioversion,
electroversion, or defibrillation. Cardioversion may be used
for arrhythmias starting
in the atria or the ventricles. Usually, a large machine that
delivers the shock (a
defibrillator) is used by a team of doctors and nurses to
stop a life-threatening
arrhythmia. However, a defibrillator about the size of a pack
of cards can be
implanted surgically. These small devices, which
automatically sense life-threatening
arrhythmias and deliver a shock, are used in people who would
otherwise die when
their heart suddenly stops. Because these defibrillators
don't prevent arrhythmias,
the person usually takes drugs as well.
Certain types of arrhythmias can be corrected by surgical and
other invasive
procedures. For example, arrhythmias caused by coronary
artery disease may be
controlled by angioplasty or coronary artery bypass surgery.
(see page 125 in
Chapter 27, Coronary Artery Disease) When an arrhythmia is
caused by an irritable
spot in the electrical system of the heart, the spot can be
destroyed or removed.
Most often, the spot is destroyed by catheter ablation
(delivery of radiofrequency
energy through a catheter inserted in the heart). After a
heart attack (myocardial
infarction), some people have life-threatening episodes of an
arrhythmia called
ventricular tachycardia. This arrhythmia may be triggered by
an injured area of
heart muscle that can be identified and removed during open
heart surgery.
Atrial Ectopic Beats
An atrial ectopic beat is an extra heartbeat caused by
electrical activation of the
atria before the normal heartbeat.
Atrial ectopic beats occur as additional heartbeats in
healthy people and rarely
cause symptoms. Sometimes they're caused by or worsened by
alcohol, cold
remedies containing drugs that stimulate the sympathetic
nervous system (such as
ephedrine or pseudoephedrine), or drugs used to treat asthma.
Diagnosis and Treatment
Atrial ectopic beats may be detected by physical examination
and are confirmed by
an electrocardiogram (ECG). If treatment is necessary because
ectopic beats occur
frequently and cause intolerable palpitations, a doctor may
prescribe a beta-blocker
to slow the heart rate.
Paroxysmal Atrial Tachycardia
Paroxysmal atrial tachycardia is a regular, fast (160 to 200
beats per minute)
heart rate that occurs suddenly and is triggered in the
atria.
Several mechanisms can produce paroxysmal atrial
tachycardias. The fast rate may
be triggered by a premature atrial beat that sends an impulse
on an abnormal path
to the ventricles.
The fast heart rate tends to start and stop suddenly and may
last anywhere from
a few minutes to many hours. It's almost always experienced
as an uncomfortable
palpitation and is often associated with other symptoms, such
as weakness.
Usually, the heart is otherwise normal, and the episodes are
more unpleasant than
dangerous.
Treatment
Episodes of the arrhythmia often can be stopped by one of
several maneuvers that
stimulate the vagus nerve and thus slow the heart rate. These
maneuvers, which
are usually conducted by a doctor, include having the person
strain as if having a
difficult bowel movement, rubbing the person's neck just
below the angle of the
jaw (which stimulates a sensitive area on the carotid artery
called the carotid
sinus), and plunging the person's face into a bowl of
ice-cold water. These
maneuvers work best when they're used shortly after the
arrhythmia starts.
If these maneuvers don't work, the episode will usually stop
if the person simply
goes to sleep. However, most people seek medical intervention
to end the episode.
A doctor can usually stop an episode promptly by giving an
intravenous dose of
the drug verapamil or adenosine. Rarely, the drugs don't
work, and cardioversion
(delivery of a shock to the heart) may be used.
Prevention is more difficult than treatment, but several
drugs may be effective
when used alone or in combination. In rare cases, an abnormal
pathway in the
heart may need to be destroyed by catheter ablation (delivery
of radiofrequency
energy through a catheter inserted in the heart).
Atrial Fibrillation and Flutter
Atrial fibrillation and atrial flutter are very fast
electrical discharge patterns that
make the atria contract extremely rapidly, thus causing the
ventricles to contract
faster and less efficiently than normal.
These abnormal rhythms may occur sporadically or may persist.
During fibrillation
or flutter, the contractions of the atria are so fast that
the atrial walls simply
quiver, so blood isn't pumped effectively to the ventricles.
In fibrillation, the atrial
rhythm is irregular, so the ventricular rhythm is also
irregular; in flutter, the atrial
and ventricular rhythms usually are regular. In both cases,
the ventricles beat more
slowly than the atria because the atrioventricular node and
the bundle of His can't
conduct electrical impulses at such a fast rate, and only
every second to fourth
impulse gets through. Still the ventricles beat too fast to
fill completely. Therefore,
inadequate amounts of blood are pumped out of the heart,
blood pressure falls,
and heart failure may occur.
The heart may go into atrial fibrillation or flutter with no
other sign of heart
disease, but more often the cause is an underlying problem,
such as rheumatic
heart disease, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure,
alcohol abuse, or too
much thyroid hormone (hyperthyroidism).
Symptoms and Diagnosis
Symptoms of atrial fibrillation or flutter depend largely on
how fast the ventricles
beat. A modest ventricular rate--less than about 120 beats
per minute--may
produce no symptoms. Higher rates cause unpleasant
palpitations or chest
discomfort. With atrial fibrillation, the person may be aware
of the rhythm
irregularities.
The diminished pumping ability of the heart may make the
person feel weak, faint,
and short of breath. Some people, especially the elderly,
develop heart failure,
chest pain, and shock.
In atrial fibrillation, the atria don't empty completely into
the ventricles with each
beat. Over time, some blood inside the atria may stagnate and
clot. Pieces of the
clot may break off, pass into the left ventricle, and
continue into the general
circulation, where they may block a smaller artery. (Pieces
of a clot that block an
artery are called emboli.) Most often, the pieces of a clot
break off shortly after
atrial fibrillation converts to a normal rhythm, either
spontaneously or with
treatment. Blockage of an artery in the brain may cause a
stroke. Rarely, a stroke
is the first sign of atrial fibrillation.
The diagnosis of atrial fibrillation or flutter is suspected
from the symptoms and
confirmed by an electrocardiogram (ECG). With atrial
fibrillation, the pulse is
irregular. With atrial flutter, the pulse is more likely to
be regular but rapid.
Treatment
Treatments for atrial fibrillation and flutter are designed
to control the rate at which
the ventricles contract, treat the disorder responsible for
the abnormal rhythm,
and restore the normal rhythm of the heart. With atrial
fibrillation, treatment is
also usually given to prevent clots and emboli.
The first step in treating atrial fibrillation or flutter is
usually to slow the ventricular
rate to improve the heart's efficiency in pumping blood.
Contractions of the
ventricles usually can be slowed and strengthened with
digoxin, a drug that slows
the conduction of impulses to the ventricles. When digoxin
alone doesn't help,
giving a second drug--a beta-blocker such as propranolol or
atenolol or a calcium
channel blocker such as diltiazem or verapamil--usually does.
Treatment of the underlying disease rarely alleviates atrial
arrhythmias unless the
disease is hyperthyroidism.
Though occasionally atrial fibrillation or flutter
spontaneously reverts to a normal
rhythm, more often it must be converted to normal. Sometimes
such a conversion
can be achieved with certain antiarrhythmic drugs. However,
electric shock
(cardioversion) is often the most effective approach. Success
by any means is less
likely the longer the atria have been in their abnormal
rhythm (especially after 6
months or more), the more the atria are enlarged, and the
more severe the
underlying heart disease has become. When conversion is
successful, the risk that
the arrhythmia will return is high, even if the person takes
preventive drugs such
as quinidine, procainamide, propafenone, or flecainide.
If all other treatments fail, the atrioventricular node can
be destroyed by catheter
ablation (delivery of radiofrequency energy through a
catheter inserted in the
heart). This procedure interrupts conduction from the
fibrillating atria to the
ventricles, but a permanent artificial pacemaker is required
for the ventricles
afterward.
The risk of developing blood clots is highest in people with
atrial fibrillation who
have an enlarged left atrium or who have mitral valve
disease. (see page 93 in
Chapter 19, Heart Valve Disorders) The risk that a clot will
be dislodged and cause
a stroke is particularly high in people who have intermittent
but persistent episodes
of atrial fibrillation or whose fibrillation is converted to
the normal rhythm. Because
anyone with atrial fibrillation is at risk of a stroke,
anticoagulant therapy generally is
recommended to prevent clots unless there's a specific reason
not to give it, such
as high blood pressure. However, anticoagulant therapy itself
carries a risk of
excessive bleeding that can lead to hemorrhagic stroke and
other bleeding
complications. Therefore, a doctor balances the potential
benefits and risks for
each person.
Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome
Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome is an abnormal heart rhythm in
which electrical
impulses are conducted along an extra pathway from the atria
to the ventricles,
causing episodes of a rapid heart rate.
Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome is the most common of several
disorders that
involve such extra (accessory) pathways. This extra pathway
is present at birth
but seems to conduct impulses through the heart only
occasionally. It may become
apparent as early as the first year of life or as late as age
60.
Symptoms and Diagnosis
Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome can cause sudden episodes of a
very rapid heart
rate with palpitations.
In the first year of life, babies may develop heart failure
if the episode is prolonged.
They sometimes seem out of breath or lethargic, stop eating
well, or have rapid,
visible pulsations of the chest.
The first episodes may occur in the teens or early twenties.
Typical episodes begin
suddenly, often during exercise. They may last for only a few
seconds or may
persist for several hours, rarely more than 12 hours. In a
young and otherwise
physically fit person, the episodes usually cause few
symptoms, but very rapid
heart rates are uncomfortable and distressing and can cause
fainting or heart
failure. The rapid heart rate sometimes changes to atrial
fibrillation. Atrial fibrillation
is particularly dangerous in about 1 percent of people with
Wolff-Parkinson-White
syndrome because the extra pathway can conduct the rapid
impulses to the
ventricles much more successfully than the normal pathway
can. The result is an
extremely rapid ventricular rate that may be life
threatening. Not only is the heart
very inefficient when it beats so rapidly, but this extremely
rapid heart rate may
progress to ventricular fibrillation, which is immediately
fatal.
The diagnosis of Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome with or
without atrial fibrillation
is made using an electrocardiogram (ECG).
Treatment
Episodes of the arrhythmia often can be stopped by one of
several maneuvers that
stimulate the vagus nerve and thus slow the heart rate. These
maneuvers, which
are usually conducted by a doctor, include having the person
strain as if having a
difficult bowel movement, rubbing the person's neck just
below the angle of the
jaw (which stimulates a sensitive area on the carotid artery
called the carotid
sinus), and plunging the person's face into a bowl of
ice-cold water. The
maneuvers work best when they're used shortly after the
arrhythmia starts. When
these maneuvers don't work, drugs such as verapamil or
adenosine usually are
given intravenously to stop the arrhythmia. Other
antiarrhythmic drugs are then
used for long-term prevention of episodes of rapid heart
rate.
In infants and children under age 10, digoxin may be given to
suppress episodes
of rapid heart rate. Adults must not take digoxin because it
can speed up
conduction in the extra pathway and increase the risk of
developing fatal
ventricular fibrillation. For this reason, the drug is
usually stopped before a person
reaches puberty.
Destruction of the extra conduction pathway by catheter
ablation (delivery of
radiofrequency energy through a catheter inserted in the
heart) is successful more
than 95 percent of the time. The risk of death during the
procedure is less than 1
in 1,000. Catheter ablation is particularly useful for young
people who might
otherwise face a lifetime of taking antiarrhythmic drugs.
Ventricular Ectopic Beats
A ventricular ectopic beat (premature ventricular
contraction) is an extra
heartbeat caused by electrical activation of the ventricles
before the normal
heartbeat.
Ventricular ectopic beats occur commonly and don't indicate
danger in people who
don't have heart disease. However, when they occur frequently
in a person who
has heart failure or aortic stenosis or who has had a heart
attack, they may be
followed by more dangerous arrhythmias such as ventricular
fibrillation, which can
cause sudden death.
Symptoms and Diagnosis
Isolated ventricular ectopic beats have little effect on the
pumping action of the
heart and usually don't cause symptoms, unless they're
extremely frequent. The
main symptom is the perception of a strong or skipped beat.
Ventricular ectopic beats are diagnosed using an
electrocardiogram (ECG).
Treatment
In an otherwise healthy person, no treatment is needed other
than decreasing
stress and avoiding alcohol and over-the-counter cold
remedies containing drugs
that stimulate the heart. Drug therapy is usually prescribed
only if symptoms are
intolerable or the pattern of ectopic beats suggests danger.
Beta-blockers are
usually tried first because they're relatively safe drugs.
However, many people
don't want to take them because of the sluggishness they can
cause.
After a heart attack, a person who is experiencing frequent
ventricular ectopic
beats may reduce the risk of sudden death by taking
beta-blockers and
undergoing angioplasty or coronary artery bypass surgery (see
page 125 in
Chapter 27, Coronary Artery Disease) to relieve the
underlying coronary artery
blockage. Antiarrhythmic drugs can suppress ventricular
ectopic beats, but they
also may increase the risk of a fatal arrhythmia. Therefore,
they're used very
carefully in selected patients after sophisticated cardiac
studies and risk evaluation.
Ventricular Tachycardia
Ventricular tachycardia is a ventricular rate of at least 120
beats per minute
triggered in the ventricles.
Sustained ventricular tachycardia (ventricular tachycardia
lasting at least 30
seconds) occurs in various heart diseases that damage the
ventricles. Most
commonly, it occurs weeks or months after a heart attack.
Symptoms and Diagnosis
A person with ventricular tachycardia almost always has
palpitations. Sustained
ventricular tachycardia can be dangerous and often requires
emergency treatment
because the ventricles can't fill adequately and pump blood
normally. Blood
pressure tends to fall, and heart failure follows. Sustained
ventricular tachycardia is
also dangerous because it can worsen until it becomes
ventricular fibrillation--a
form of cardiac arrest. Sometimes, ventricular tachycardia
causes few symptoms,
even at rates of up to 200 beats per minute, but it may still
be extremely
dangerous.
The diagnosis of ventricular tachycardia is made with an
electrocardiogram (ECG).
Treatment
Treatment is given for any episode of ventricular tachycardia
that causes
symptoms and for episodes that last more than 30 seconds even
without
symptoms. If episodes cause blood pressure to fall below
normal, cardioversion is
needed immediately. Lidocaine or similar drugs are given
intravenously to suppress
ventricular tachycardia. If episodes of ventricular
tachycardia persist, a doctor may
conduct an electrophysiologic study and try other drugs. The
one that works best
during electrophysiologic testing can be continued to help
prevent recurrences.
Sustained ventricular tachycardia is usually triggered by a
small abnormal area in
the ventricles, and this trigger area can sometimes be
removed surgically. In some
people with ventricular tachycardia that doesn't respond to
drug therapy, a device
called an automatic cardioverter-defibrillator may be
implanted.
Ventricular Fibrillation
Ventricular fibrillation is a potentially fatal,
uncoordinated series of very rapid
ineffective contractions throughout the ventricles caused by
multiple chaotic
electrical impulses.
Ventricular fibrillation is electrically similar to atrial
fibrillation, but it has a much
graver prognosis. In ventricular fibrillation, the ventricles
merely quiver and don't
carry out coordinated contractions. Because no blood is
pumped from the heart,
ventricular fibrillation is a form of cardiac arrest and is
fatal unless treated
immediately.
The causes of ventricular fibrillation are the same as those
of cardiac arrest. The
most common cause is inadequate blood flow to the heart
muscle because of
coronary artery disease or a heart attack. Other causes are
shock and very low
levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia).
Symptoms and Diagnosis
Ventricular fibrillation leads to unconsciousness in seconds.
If untreated, the
person usually has convulsions and develops irreversible
brain damage after about
5 minutes because oxygen is no longer reaching the brain.
Death soon follows.
A doctor considers a diagnosis of ventricular fibrillation
when a person suddenly
collapses. On examination, no pulse or heartbeat is detected,
and blood pressure
can't be measured. The diagnosis is confirmed by an
electrocardiogram (ECG).
Treatment
Ventricular fibrillation must be treated as an emergency.
Cardiopulmonary
resuscitation (CPR) must be started within a few minutes and
then followed as
soon as possible by cardioversion (an electric shock
delivered to the chest). Drugs
are then given to help maintain the normal heart rhythm.
When ventricular fibrillation occurs within a few hours of a
heart attack and the
person isn't in shock or doesn't have heart failure, prompt
cardioversion has a 95
percent success rate, and the prognosis is good. Shock and
heart failure are signs
of major damage to the ventricles; if they're present, even
prompt cardioversion
has only a 30 percent success rate, and 70 percent of
resuscitated survivors die.
Heart Block
Heart block is a delay in electrical conduction through the
atrioventricular node,
which lies between the atria and the ventricles.
Heart block is graded as first-degree, second-degree, or
third-degree, depending
on whether conduction to the ventricles is slightly delayed,
intermittently delayed,
or completely blocked.
In first-degree heart block, every impulse from the atria
reaches the ventricles,
but it's slowed for a fraction of a second as it moves
through the atrioventricular
node. This conduction problem produces no symptoms.
First-degree heart block is
common among well-trained athletes, teenagers, young adults,
and people with a
highly active vagus nerve. However, the condition also occurs
in rheumatic fever
and sarcoid heart disease and may be caused by drugs. The
diagnosis is made by
observing the conduction delay on an electrocardiogram (ECG).
In second-degree heart block, not every impulse from the
atria reaches the
ventricles. This block results in the heart beating slowly or
irregularly. Some forms
of second-degree block progress to third-degree heart block.
In third-degree heart block, impulses from the atria to the
ventricles are
completely blocked, and the heart rate and rhythm are paced
from either the
atrioventricular node or the ventricles themselves. Without
stimulation from the
heart's normal pacemaker (sinoatrial node), the ventricles
beat very slowly, less
than 50 beats per minute. Third-degree heart block is a
serious arrhythmia that
can affect the heart's pumping ability. Fainting (syncope),
dizziness, and sudden
heart failure are common. When the ventricles beat faster
than 40 beats per
minute, symptoms are less severe but include tiredness, low
blood pressure when
the person stands up, and shortness of breath. The
atrioventricular node and the
ventricles are not only slow as substitute pacemakers but
they're frequently
irregular and unreliable.
Treatment
First-degree block requires no treatment even when it's
caused by heart disease.
Some cases of second-degree block may require an artificial
pacemaker.
Third-degree block almost always requires an artificial
pacemaker. A temporary
pacemaker may be used in an emergency until a permanent one
can be implanted.
Most people need an artificial pacemaker for the rest of
their lives, although normal
rhythms sometimes return after recovery from an underlying
cause, such as a
heart attack.
Sick Sinus Syndrome
Sick sinus syndrome includes a wide variety of abnormalities
of natural pacemaker
function.
This syndrome may result in a persistently slow heartbeat
(sinus bradycardia) or a
complete blockage between the pacemaker and the atria (sinus
arrest) in which the
impulse from the pacemaker fails to make the atria contract.
When this happens,
an escape pacemaker lower in the atrium or even in the
ventricle usually takes over.
An important subtype of the sick sinus syndrome is the
bradycardia-tachycardia
syndrome, in which rapid atrial rhythms, including atrial
fibrillation or flutter,
alternate with prolonged periods of slow heart rhythms. All
types of sick sinus
syndrome are particularly common in the elderly.
Symptoms and Diagnosi